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Oral history interview with James Lechay

Interviewee:
Lechay, James  Search this
Interviewer:
Brown, Robert F.  Search this
Names:
Gorky, Arshile, 1904-1948  Search this
Hartley, Marsden, 1877-1943  Search this
Lechay, Myron, 1898-1972  Search this
Margules, De Hirsh, 1899-1965  Search this
Pollock, Jackson, 1912-1956  Search this
Siqueiros, David Alfaro  Search this
Stieglitz, Alfred, 1864-1946  Search this
Weber, Max, 1881-1961  Search this
Extent:
70 Pages (Transcript)
Type:
Collection descriptions
Archival materials
Pages
Sound recordings
Interviews
Date:
1998 July 9-Aug. 26
Scope and Contents:
Interview of James Lechay, conducted by Robert F. Brown for the Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution at Lechay's home in Wellfleet, Massachusetts, on July 9-Aug. 26, 1998.
Lechay speaks of his early childhood in the Bronx, N.Y.; copying paintings at the Metropolitan Museum under the tutelage of his elder brother Myron; discontinuing his study of psychology at the University of Illinois in 1929 to return to NYC to paint; taking odd jobs to counter his extreme poverty in the early 1930s; his first exhibition at Another Place (1936), a gallery run by De Hirsh Margules; praise from David Siqueiros, the Mexican muralist; his first trip to Provincetown (1930); exhibiting several times at the Whitney Museum (and others) but not at MoMA; touring NYC galleries on Fridays; meeting Marsden Hartley and Alfred Stieglitz; his friendship with Arshile Gorky; serving as a juror for the 1940s Momentum exhibition with Jackson Pollock and Max Weber; teaching at the University of Iowa in 1945, succeeding Philip Guston; his luck in having, since 1935, a New York dealer; his work as self-referential; being repelled by art fashions and not compromising his work in order to sell; the appearance of simplicity in his work. Lechay also recalls Raphael and Moses Soyer, Abraham Walkowitz, and others.
Biographical / Historical:
James Lechay (1907-2001) was a painter from Wellfleet, Mass.
General:
Originally recorded on 2 sound cassettes. Reformatted in 2010 as 4 digital wav files. Duration is 2 hrs., 17 min.
Provenance:
This interview is part of the Archives of American Art Oral History Program, started in 1958 to document the history of the visual arts in the United States, primarily through interviews with artists, historians, dealers, critics and administrators.
Restrictions:
This transcript is open for research. Access to the entire audio recording is restricted. Contact Reference Services for more information.
Topic:
Painters -- Massachusetts -- Wellfleet -- Interviews  Search this
Painters -- New York (State) -- New York -- Interviews  Search this
Genre/Form:
Sound recordings
Interviews
Identifier:
AAA.lechay98
Archival Repository:
Archives of American Art
GUID:
https://n2t.net/ark:/65665/mw9b056ccd2-13d0-4eb3-b5ab-a4771bf9641d
EDAN-URL:
ead_collection:sova-aaa-lechay98
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De Hirsh Margules papers

Creator:
Margules, De Hirsh, 1899-1965  Search this
Names:
Babcock Galleries  Search this
Brooklyn Museum  Search this
Buffalo Fine Arts Academy  Search this
Feigl Gallery  Search this
Ferargil Galleries  Search this
Museum of Fine Arts, Boston  Search this
Museum of Modern Art (New York, N.Y.)  Search this
Niveau Gallery (New York, N.Y.)  Search this
Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum  Search this
Walker Art Center  Search this
Whitney Museum of American Art  Search this
Worcester Art Museum  Search this
Beaudoin, Kenneth Lawrence, 1913-  Search this
Connick, Charles J., 1875-1945  Search this
Eilshemius, Louis M. (Louis Michel), 1864-1941  Search this
Frankel, Aaron  Search this
Fuller, R. Buckminster (Richard Buckminster), 1895-  Search this
Gillespie, Al Lincoln, Jr.  Search this
Gilman, Esther  Search this
Grady, James  Search this
Higgins, Dick, 1938-  Search this
Horblit, Harrison D.  Search this
Horblit, Jean  Search this
Jensen, Alfred, 1903-1981  Search this
King, Alex  Search this
Kolin, Sacha, 1911-1981  Search this
Lechay, Myron, 1898-1972  Search this
Lehman, Herbert H. (Herbert Henry), 1878-1963  Search this
Lindsay, John V.  Search this
Mandel, Marieli Kailin  Search this
Margules, Blanche London  Search this
Marin, John, 1870-1953  Search this
Miller, Henry, 1891-  Search this
O'Brien, Lawrence F.  Search this
Schnitzler, Max, 1903-  Search this
Stieglitz, Alfred, 1864-1946  Search this
Weber, David A.  Search this
Extent:
5.5 Linear feet
Type:
Collection descriptions
Archival materials
Writings
Photographs
Notebooks
Sketchbooks
Sound recordings
Poems
Scrapbooks
Oil paintings
Collages
Date:
1888-2001
bulk 1923-1965
Summary:
The papers of painter De Hirsh Margules measure 5.5 linear feet and date from 1888-2001, with the bulk dating from 1923-1965. The papers contain biographical material, and business and personal correspondence, including letters from Alfred Stiegliz, John Marin, Henry Miller, Max Schnitzler, Charles J. Connick, Louis M. Eilshemius, Alex King, and Myron Lechay. Also found are writings, printed material, scrapbooks, photographs, works of art and audio recordings documenting Margules' personal life and professional career.
Scope and Content Note:
The papers of painter De Hirsh Margules measure 5.5 linear feet and date from 1888-2001, with the bulk dating from 1923-1965. The papers contain biographical material, and business and personal correspondence, including letters from Alfred Stiegliz, John Marin, Henry Miller, Max Schnitzler, Charles J. Connick, Louis M. Eilshemius, Alex King, and Myron Lechay. Also found are writings, printed material, scrapbooks, photographs, works of art and audio recordings documenting Margules' personal life and professional career.

Biographical material consists of Margules' curriculum vitae, address books, war ration books, press credentials, passports, naturalization documents, membership and social security cards, and memorial material on De Hirsh and Blanche Margules.

Correspondence of De Hirsh Margules covers both personal and business matters. Family correspondents include his wife Blanche London, her parents, De Hirsh's mother Rosa and his sister Sam. There is correspondence with Jean and Harrison Horblit, friends and business associates of the Margules, as well as correspondence with his girlfriend, Marieli Kailin Mandel. Other correspondents include Alfred Stieglitz, John Marin, Henry Miller, Max Schnitzler, Charles J. Connick, Louis M. Eilshemius, Alex King, Myron Lechay, and two letters from New York Governor Herbert H. Lehman. There are single letters from Sasha Kolin; New York City Mayor John V. Lindsay; Lawrence F. O'Brien, special assistant to President John F. Kennedy; Buckminster Fuller. This last letter was not addressed exclusively to Margules. Other personal correspondence includes letters, postcards and greeting cards from family members and friends. Other business correspondents include galleries and museums such as Babcock Galleries, Museum of Modern Art, Whitney Museum of American Art, Niveau Gallery, Museum of Fine Arts Boston, Brooklyn Museum, Buffalo Fine Arts Academy, Ferargil Gallery, Feigl Gallery, Guggenheim Museum, Worcester Art Museum and Walker Art Center.

Writings consist mostly of poems by De Hirsh Margules, sometimes appearing in multiple draft forms, as well as a longer work titled "Mulberry Bend." Also included within the series are notebooks filled with poems and works of prose, the latter expounding upon his theories and ideas. Writings by other authors range from poetry to works of prose, criticism and biography, including A. Lincoln Gillespie, Jr., Kenneth Lawrence Beaudoin, David Weber, Aaron Frankel, James Grady, Dick Higgins, and Esther Gilman, among others. There are three illustrated writings by Alfred Jensen. Audio recordings contain a sound tape reel of De Hirsh Margules reciting his poems Rainbow and Mulberry Bend.

Printed material includes newspaper and magazine clippings, press releases, exhibition announcements, catalogues and books. Scrapbooks include printed material, newspaper and magazine clippings, and exhibition announcements on the career of De Hirsh Margules. Also included are two scrapbooks by Blanche London Margules, representing newspaper clippings of her writing, among others.

Works of Art include an oil painting on wood and sketchbooks by Margules. Also included are six collages in a series by Kenneth Lawrence Beaudoin titled "Eye Poems"; and text-based drawings/writings by A. Lincoln Gillespie, Jr.

Photographs, transparencies and slides include works of art by De Hirsh and Blanche London Margules. Also included are personal photographs of the Margules', their friends, family and students, and two folders of photographs of Marieli Kailin Mandel.
Arrangement:
The De Hirsh Margules papers are organized into 8 series:

Missing Title

Series 1: Biographical Material, 1888-1978, undated (Box 1, 6; 0.2 linear feet)

Series 2: Correspondence, 1923-2000, undated (Box 1-3; 2.8 linear feet)

Series 3: Writings, 1936-1965, undated (Box 4; 1.0 linear feet)

Series 4: Printed Material, 1933-2001, undated (Box 5; 0.2 linear feet)

Series 5: Scrapbooks, 1922-1957, undated (Box 5, 7; 0.2 linear feet)

Series 6: Photographs, 1926-1992, undated (Box 5, 7; 0.8 linear feet)

Series 7: Works of Art, 1948, undated (Box 6, 7; 0.4 linear feet)

Series 8: Audio Recordings, undated (Box 6; 1 folder)
Biographical Note:
De Hirsh Margules (1899-1965) was a painter in New York, NY. Margules was born in Jasse, Romania and arrived in New York City at only ten months of age. His parents were in the Yiddish Theater; his father, Edouard was a playwright/director, and his mother, Rosa, was an actress. Margules received much of his art education outside of the conventional art institutional framework. Early on, he studied with Edwin Randby in Pennsylvania from 1917-1918, but it was really his neighbor, the painter Benno Greenstein, who encouraged Margules to pursue a career in the arts. From 1919-1921 he studied period architecture, design and decoration at the New York Evening School of Art and Design.

By 1922, Margules began working nights as a police reporter for the City News Association of New York, a job he would hold until 1942. However, he continued to study and paint during the day, this time working with Myron Lechay.

In 1927 Margules took a leave of absence from the City News Association to travel to Paris. He studied at the Musée du Louvre, and painted landscapes in Montmartre, Paris; Fontenay-près-Vézelay, Burgundy; and Tunis, Africa. In 1929 Margules returned to New York and met artist/dealer Alfred Stieglitz, who quickly became his most trusted friend and advisor. It was through Stieglitz that Margules was introduced to John Marin, Georgia O'Keeffe, Paul Rosenfeld, Stuart Davis and Jan Matulka. While Margules would benefit from his relations with all of these artists, it was John Marin who would become his most important mentor. He felt that Marin was the only one who could help him with the formal problems he was having with painting.

Margules lived most of his life in Greenwich Village and was a well-known member of the colorful and vivacious arts community. He was commonly recognized by his affable demeanor, but mostly it was his attire, particularly the dark blue beret that he was rarely seen without. To his friends he was known simply as "the Baron."

De Hirsh Margules has been called an abstract realist. He used saturated colors and bold textures in the construction of his abstract landscapes, but more specifically it was his interest in the concept of "time painting" or "time perspective" that propelled his work. It was through the physical rendering and representation of his subject matter that he explored the psychological concepts of time. From 1936-1937 Margules established "Another Place," an exhibition space set up in his New York City apartment at 43 West 8th Street. Over a two year period there were fourteen solo-exhibitions by Margules and other artists.

He taught painting in 1951 at Ball State College in Muncie, Indiana, and at the New York Equity Workshop in 1952. In 1951 Elaine de Kooning wrote a piece about his working methods in the December edition of Art News.

De Hirsh Margules died from a heart attack in 1965. He was 65 years old.
Provenance:
The papers were donated to the Archives in 2005 by Elita Agee.
Restrictions:
The De Hirsh Margules papers are open for research. Use requires an appointment.
Rights:
The Archives of American Art makes its archival collections available for non-commercial, educational and personal use unless restricted by copyright and/or donor restrictions, including but not limited to access and publication restrictions. AAA makes no representations concerning such rights and restrictions and it is the user's responsibility to determine whether rights or restrictions exist and to obtain any necessary permission to access, use, reproduce and publish the collections. Please refer to the Smithsonian's Terms of Use for additional information.
Topic:
Painters -- New York (State) -- New York  Search this
Poets -- New York (State) -- New York  Search this
Works of art  Search this
Genre/Form:
Writings
Photographs
Notebooks
Sketchbooks
Sound recordings
Poems
Scrapbooks
Oil paintings
Collages
Citation:
De Hirsh Margules papers, 1888-2001, bulk 1923-1965. Archives of America Art, Smithsonian Institution.
Identifier:
AAA.margde
See more items in:
De Hirsh Margules papers
Archival Repository:
Archives of American Art
GUID:
https://n2t.net/ark:/65665/mw96b288528-ce86-4c0a-8b52-8f5eb10f986f
EDAN-URL:
ead_collection:sova-aaa-margde
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James Lechay papers

Creator:
Lechay, James  Search this
Names:
Lechay, Myron, 1898-1972  Search this
Extent:
4.2 Linear feet
Type:
Collection descriptions
Archival materials
Sound recordings
Interviews
Date:
1928-1994
Scope and Contents:
Letters; reel-to-reel tape recordings; a transcript of an interview conducted by Sara London, 1994; two scrapbooks, 1936-1947 and 1948-1984; lecture notes including "A Few Notes on Myron Lechay" and other draft writings; photographs of exhibition installations; exhibition catalogs and announcements; magazine and newspaper clippings, and other printed material. Letters from Leonard Bocour, Wilfred P. Cohen, Philip Evergood, Frank Everly, Gerrit Hondius, Antoinette Kraushaar, Yasuo Kuniyoshi, De Hirsh Margules, Salvatore Meo, Max Weber, Sol Wilson, and others; reel-to-reel tape recordings include an interview of Lechay conducted by Karl Fortess, undated, a recording of Lechay, "Cedar Falls, May 1966," and a 1964 recording of Lechay and Irving Marantz, "SIU art exhibition," April 11, 1964. Also included are the papers of Lecahay's brother, painter Myron Lechay (0.2 linear ft.), including letters and postcards,1928-1946, from Valentine Dudensing, C. Adolph Glassgold, Stuart Davis, and others; writings; photographs of Myron Lechay and his works of art; checklists of works of art; catalogs, announcements, press releases, and other printed material; and miscellany.
Biographical / Historical:
Painter; Wellfleet, Mass.; Died 2001; taught at University of Iowa Myron Lechay was James Lechay's brother.
Provenance:
Donated 2005 by Daniel Lechay, son of James Lechay and nephew of Myron Lechay.
Restrictions:
Use of original papers requires an appointment and is limited to the Archives' Washington, D.C., Research Center. Contact Reference Services for more information.
Occupation:
Painters -- Massachusetts -- Wellfleet  Search this
Topic:
Painting -- Study and teaching  Search this
Genre/Form:
Sound recordings
Interviews
Identifier:
AAA.lechjame
Archival Repository:
Archives of American Art
GUID:
https://n2t.net/ark:/65665/mw9e5667712-5cd7-42d8-a770-c737e1c55111
EDAN-URL:
ead_collection:sova-aaa-lechjame

C. Adolph Glassgold to Myron Lechay.

Creator:
Glassgold, C. Adolph, 1899-  Search this
Lechay, Myron, 1898-1972  Search this
Type:
Correspondence
Date:
1932 June 20
Citation:
C. Adolph Glassgold. C. Adolph Glassgold to Myron Lechay., 1932 June 20. James Lechay papers, 1928-1994. Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution.
Record number:
(DSI-AAA)6370
See more items in:
James Lechay papers, 1928-1994
Data Source:
Archives of American Art
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:AAADCD_item_6370
Online Media:

Stuart Davis to Myron Lechay.

Creator:
Davis, Stuart, 1892-1964  Search this
Lechay, Myron, 1898-1972  Search this
Type:
Correspondence
Date:
1928 June 12
Citation:
Stuart Davis. Stuart Davis to Myron Lechay., 1928 June 12. James Lechay papers, 1928-1994. Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution.
Record number:
(DSI-AAA)6371
See more items in:
James Lechay papers, 1928-1994
Data Source:
Archives of American Art
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:AAADCD_item_6371
Online Media:

Head of Mulatto Woman, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on linen
Culture:
Mulatto  Search this
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.7
Date:
Ca. 1936
Topic:
Figure female--Head  Search this
Ethnic  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583063
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392560

Interior, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.5
Date:
1941
Topic:
Architecture interior  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583061
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392558

Head, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.1
Date:
1939
Topic:
Figure--Head  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583057
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392554

Street, New Orleans, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.3
Date:
1941
Topic:
Cityscape--Louisiana--New Orleans  Search this
Cityscape--Street  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583059
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392556

Window, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.4
Date:
1941
Topic:
Architecture exterior--Detail--Window  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583060
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392557

Roofs, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
University of Minnesota Frederick R. Weisman Art Museum 333 East River Road Minneapolis Minnesota 55455 Accession Number: 43.727
Date:
1936
Topic:
Landscape  Search this
Architecture exterior--Detail--Balcony  Search this
Architecture exterior--Detail--Roof  Search this
Control number:
IAP 26030207
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_428182

Composition -- Bourbon Street, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.6
Date:
1941
Topic:
Cityscape--Louisiana--New Orleans  Search this
Cityscape--Street  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583062
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392559

Painting II, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on linen
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.8
Date:
1938
Topic:
Abstract  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583064
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392561

Landscape #3, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
University of Minnesota Frederick R. Weisman Art Museum 333 East River Road Minneapolis Minnesota 55455 Accession Number: 43.726
Date:
1938
Topic:
Architecture interior--Detail--Window  Search this
Control number:
IAP 26030208
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_428183

Entrance, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
University of Minnesota Frederick R. Weisman Art Museum 333 East River Road Minneapolis Minnesota 55455 Accession Number: 43.725
Date:
1940
Topic:
Architecture interior--Detail--Door  Search this
Control number:
IAP 26030209
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_428184

Bourbon Street, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.2
Date:
1941
Topic:
Cityscape--Louisiana--New Orleans  Search this
Cityscape--Street  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583058
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392555

Painting no. 3 -- Courtyard New Orleans, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on linen
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.10
Date:
1938
Topic:
Cityscape--Louisiana--New Orleans  Search this
Architecture--Other--Courtyard  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583066
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392563

Three Schooners at Wharf, Gloucester, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Spanierman Gallery New York New York
Date:
1922
Topic:
Landscape--Massachusetts--Gloucester  Search this
Architecture--Boat--Sailboat  Search this
Waterscape--Harbor  Search this
Waterscape--Wharf  Search this
Control number:
IAP 89650074
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_383584

Interior IV, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Oil on linen
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Smithsonian American Art Museum 8th & G Streets, N.W Washington District of Columbia 20560 Accession Number: 1968.116.9
Date:
1938
Topic:
Architecture interior  Search this
Control number:
IAP 08583065
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_392562

Girl on Beach, (painting)

Painter:
Lechay, Myron 1898-1972  Search this
Medium:
Watercolor on paper
Type:
Paintings
Owner/Location:
Butler Institute of American Art 524 Wick Avenue Youngstown Ohio 44502 Accession Number: 975-W-113
Date:
1932
Topic:
Landscape--Beach  Search this
Figure female--Full length  Search this
Control number:
IAP 42832280
Data Source:
Art Inventories Catalog, Smithsonian American Art Museums
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:siris_ari_441678

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